Comments on: I’ll Pay You $10,000 for a Great Engineer http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/ A blog on virtual worlds, games, and digital content, from Matt Mihaly Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:07:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: Matt http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83514 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:15:48 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83514 (Sorry, had to edit the comment, and for whatever reason when editing a comment my Wordpress install likes to prepend a \ to all apostrophes or quote marks.) (Sorry, had to edit the comment, and for whatever reason when editing a comment my Wordpress install likes to prepend a \ to all apostrophes or quote marks.)

]]> by: Matt http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83513 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:13:02 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83513 The typical contingency recruiter\'s fee is 20% of the initial annual salary (we use multiple contingency recruiters and they\'re all at 20%). Recruiters, of course, go out and find people, conduct pre-interviews, debrief post-interview, sometimes help with salary negotiations, provide guarantees around the candidate, and so on. When you\'re just referring a friend of yours to a company, the typical \"referral fee\" that you might expect to get from the company is $0, so I\'d say that $10,000 is a hell of a lot better. ;) --matt The typical contingency recruiter\’s fee is 20% of the initial annual salary (we use multiple contingency recruiters and they\’re all at 20%). Recruiters, of course, go out and find people, conduct pre-interviews, debrief post-interview, sometimes help with salary negotiations, provide guarantees around the candidate, and so on.

When you\’re just referring a friend of yours to a company, the typical \”referral fee\” that you might expect to get from the company is $0, so I\’d say that $10,000 is a hell of a lot better. ;)

–matt

]]> by: bart http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83512 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:08:26 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83512 Ummm... that's nice, but a typical finders fee is at least 25% of the initial annual salary. That would be, what, 3-4 times your referral offer depending on the caliber of the candidate? I'm not saying you have to offer market rates to see any results, but I get a little giggle at "it’s that hard to hire good engineers and time is important to us right now" with a meager number like 10k to support it. Ummm… that’s nice, but a typical finders fee is at least 25% of the initial annual salary. That would be, what, 3-4 times your referral offer depending on the caliber of the candidate? I’m not saying you have to offer market rates to see any results, but I get a little giggle at “it’s that hard to hire good engineers and time is important to us right now” with a meager number like 10k to support it.

]]> by: robusticus http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83403 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:41:33 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83403 Don't mind me mainly just commenting on the cost of engineers, cheerfully. Don’t mind me mainly just commenting on the cost of engineers, cheerfully.

]]> by: Matt http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83389 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:26:13 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83389 I think you're not quite understanding what I mean by server-side java. Our entire scalable, distributed server systems are built in Java. Runescape mainly uses client-side Java I believe. I have no idea what their servers run on. I think you’re not quite understanding what I mean by server-side java. Our entire scalable, distributed server systems are built in Java. Runescape mainly uses client-side Java I believe. I have no idea what their servers run on.

]]> by: robusticus http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83388 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:24:07 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83388 Tempting but I've got a C++ job and I figure the only reason for it is to make people HAVE to be great engineers and get paid accordingly. More hoping to be a Silverlight kind of guy these days. Not even gonna comment on "server-side Java" as I just refer all that Runecrap to my teenaged son, who is too young to work yet. Tempting but I’ve got a C++ job and I figure the only reason for it is to make people HAVE to be great engineers and get paid accordingly. More hoping to be a Silverlight kind of guy these days. Not even gonna comment on “server-side Java” as I just refer all that Runecrap to my teenaged son, who is too young to work yet.

]]> by: Matt http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83359 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:31:19 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83359 Yeah, we're full on artists/animators I'm afraid. --matt Yeah, we’re full on artists/animators I’m afraid.

–matt

]]> by: rootdown http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83358 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:27:51 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83358 Looks like you're all set as far as art talent goes then, huh? Looks like you’re all set as far as art talent goes then, huh?

]]> by: wowpanda http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83350 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:45:22 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83350 Damn I missed out on the $10k!! If just a few month early .... On another note good luck with it. I remember how hard it was to find a good engineer. But that was without any incentives so this could be different :-) Damn I missed out on the $10k!! If just a few month early ….

On another note good luck with it. I remember how hard it was to find a good engineer. But that was without any incentives so this could be different :-)

]]> by: David McGraw http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83334 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:10:10 +0000 http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/10/01/ill-pay-you-10000-for-a-great-engineer/#comment-83334 Impressive. I hope I see more of these offers over the blogosphere when I build a much more experienced network. Good luck with your search! Impressive. I hope I see more of these offers over the blogosphere when I build a much more experienced network. Good luck with your search!

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