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	<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/</link>
	<description>A blog on virtual worlds, games, and digital content, from Matt Mihaly</description>
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		<title>by: Settlement Imminent in Suit Alleging Underhanded Dealing at Virtual Property Company IGE &#124; Virtually Blind &#124; Virtual Law</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-58424</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] The case, which was filed in the United States District Court for the Central District of California, caught the attention of the gaming press last month both because IGE is widely reviled by players and designers, and because Pierce and Debonneville have accused each other of lengthy dirty-laundry lists of business, ethical, and personal failings. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The case, which was filed in the United States District Court for the Central District of California, caught the attention of the gaming press last month both because IGE is widely reviled by players and designers, and because Pierce and Debonneville have accused each other of lengthy dirty-laundry lists of business, ethical, and personal failings. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: What Would Matt Do &#187; The story wasn&#8217;t that interesting until it became about Free Speech.</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-52391</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-52391</guid>
					<description>[...] But now I see some lawyering bully shit (that last link is to the firm that Pierce hired&amp;#8230;) is being pulled. The Forge has a lot of the text up on their site (kudos to you good sir). I&amp;#8217;m not sure why Scott pulled it down or if there is anything they can actually do (it sounds like Virtually Blind is saying they can&amp;#8217;t, unless you&amp;#8217;re a lawyer and then you have to follow the rules&amp;#8230;I think), but for the moment I&amp;#8217;m not going to copy the text as I too live in the US and I&amp;#8217;m not sure what my lawyer would say (I don&amp;#8217;t have one). I&amp;#8217;ll see if I can&amp;#8217;t find some free, and very trustworthy of course, legal advice from the internet tomorrow. Until then, read it on The Forge and more power to you, Matt (bitching name, btw). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] But now I see some lawyering bully shit (that last link is to the firm that Pierce hired&#8230;) is being pulled. The Forge has a lot of the text up on their site (kudos to you good sir). I&#8217;m not sure why Scott pulled it down or if there is anything they can actually do (it sounds like Virtually Blind is saying they can&#8217;t, unless you&#8217;re a lawyer and then you have to follow the rules&#8230;I think), but for the moment I&#8217;m not going to copy the text as I too live in the US and I&#8217;m not sure what my lawyer would say (I don&#8217;t have one). I&#8217;ll see if I can&#8217;t find some free, and very trustworthy of course, legal advice from the internet tomorrow. Until then, read it on The Forge and more power to you, Matt (bitching name, btw). [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: wowpanda</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-52358</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It is freighting that our sociality are not controlled by lawyers and judges.  The law became so complicated in areas that lawyers can use it to sue just any one no matter right or wrong.  One story on 20/20 a few years ago is a lawyer suing a disabled businesses owner because his building didn't have ramp access (I think it is in CA where they have a disability act that states each building must have ramp access for wheelchairs).

A good example of run away judges is Florida supreme court rules school voucher are &quot;unconstitutional&quot;. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_voucher (by the same argument they can see public schools are also unconstitutional).  Another big example is the Eminent domain, anyone with a brain should know it should not be a way for government to take your land away for pennies.  

The big reason behind run away lawyers and judges are, we now live in a established world, and no one takes leadership.  So judges/lawyers are now the aristocrats of the per-revolution French era.  Back 200 years, with strong leaders, judges knows they are the weakest of the 3 branches and will not try to make laws (even though raw power takes over, it is still better than one man's rule).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is freighting that our sociality are not controlled by lawyers and judges.  The law became so complicated in areas that lawyers can use it to sue just any one no matter right or wrong.  One story on 20/20 a few years ago is a lawyer suing a disabled businesses owner because his building didn&#8217;t have ramp access (I think it is in CA where they have a disability act that states each building must have ramp access for wheelchairs).</p>
<p>A good example of run away judges is Florida supreme court rules school voucher are &#8220;unconstitutional&#8221;. See <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_voucher' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_voucher</a> (by the same argument they can see public schools are also unconstitutional).  Another big example is the Eminent domain, anyone with a brain should know it should not be a way for government to take your land away for pennies.  </p>
<p>The big reason behind run away lawyers and judges are, we now live in a established world, and no one takes leadership.  So judges/lawyers are now the aristocrats of the per-revolution French era.  Back 200 years, with strong leaders, judges knows they are the weakest of the 3 branches and will not try to make laws (even though raw power takes over, it is still better than one man&#8217;s rule).
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		<title>by: Sticking Together in the Blogosphere &#124; Random Battle</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51404</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51404</guid>
					<description>[...] If you haven&amp;#8217;t seen it yet, Scott Jennings is taking some heat from Brock Pierce&amp;#8217;s lawyers over a recent blog post about IGE that he wrote. If all of the reports are to be believed, there&amp;#8217;s no real legal basis for their demands, but Scott (wisely avoiding the headache of dealing with it) has complied anyway. As you can imagine, the whole exchange has stirred quite the little controversy, and both Ryan Shwayder and Matt Mihaly have weighed on in on the issue. Additionally, someone anonymously reposted the text of it to a temporary blog just to keep it active. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] If you haven&#8217;t seen it yet, Scott Jennings is taking some heat from Brock Pierce&#8217;s lawyers over a recent blog post about IGE that he wrote. If all of the reports are to be believed, there&#8217;s no real legal basis for their demands, but Scott (wisely avoiding the headache of dealing with it) has complied anyway. As you can imagine, the whole exchange has stirred quite the little controversy, and both Ryan Shwayder and Matt Mihaly have weighed on in on the issue. Additionally, someone anonymously reposted the text of it to a temporary blog just to keep it active. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: MMODump.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lawyers representing gold farmers threaten Lum the Mad</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51387</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51387</guid>
					<description>[...] Of course, their harshly worded note has prompted responses from other MMOGbloggers, such as these posts from Ryan Shwayder and Matt Mihaly. Perhaps Pierce&amp;#8217;s team should have considered the impact before they asked Lum to take down his post about the lawsuit. This one, over here on his site. His post concerning Brock Pierce and Alan Debonneville. This post right here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Of course, their harshly worded note has prompted responses from other MMOGbloggers, such as these posts from Ryan Shwayder and Matt Mihaly. Perhaps Pierce&#8217;s team should have considered the impact before they asked Lum to take down his post about the lawsuit. This one, over here on his site. His post concerning Brock Pierce and Alan Debonneville. This post right here. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: At the request of lawyers &#171; Just Thinking Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51373</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51373</guid>
					<description>[...] I think this lawyer underestimated the power of blogging.  Although the lawyer would like to keep things contained, he won&amp;#8217;t be successful.  Michael Zenke  at Massively has posted about this.  As well as Ryan Shwayder  and Matt Mihaly  on their blogs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I think this lawyer underestimated the power of blogging.  Although the lawyer would like to keep things contained, he won&#8217;t be successful.  Michael Zenke  at Massively has posted about this.  As well as Ryan Shwayder  and Matt Mihaly  on their blogs. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: The power of blogging &#171; Just Thinking Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51356</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] harshly worded note has prompted responses from other MMOGbloggers, such as these posts from Ryan Shwayder and Matt Mihaly. Perhaps Pierce&amp;#8217;s team should have considered the impact before they asked Lum to take down his post about the lawsuit. This one, over here on his site. The one about the IGE vs. Hernandez suit. His post concerning Brock Pierce and Alan Debonneville. This post right here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] harshly worded note has prompted responses from other MMOGbloggers, such as these posts from Ryan Shwayder and Matt Mihaly. Perhaps Pierce&#8217;s team should have considered the impact before they asked Lum to take down his post about the lawsuit. This one, over here on his site. The one about the IGE vs. Hernandez suit. His post concerning Brock Pierce and Alan Debonneville. This post right here. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Ryan Shwayder&#8217;s Nerfbat &#187; For Great Justice</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51293</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51293</guid>
					<description>[...] Scott Jennings is being bullied by lawyers. It makes me mad, and it makes Matt Mihaly mad too. I&amp;#8217;m going to go ahead and follow his lead by mirroring Lum&amp;#8217;s post (which will be down tonight) on mine for a short period of time. Dear lawyers, I&amp;#8217;m going to get rid of this in a few days anyway, so there&amp;#8217;s really no need to send me a scary ass email telling me to take this down. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Scott Jennings is being bullied by lawyers. It makes me mad, and it makes Matt Mihaly mad too. I&#8217;m going to go ahead and follow his lead by mirroring Lum&#8217;s post (which will be down tonight) on mine for a short period of time. Dear lawyers, I&#8217;m going to get rid of this in a few days anyway, so there&#8217;s really no need to send me a scary ass email telling me to take this down. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Martha</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2008/02/14/i-hate-legal-bullying/#comment-51292</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Again in matters of civil liberty Matt you take the right stand.  Kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again in matters of civil liberty Matt you take the right stand.  Kudos.
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