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	<title>Comments on: Breaking News: Hula Hoops No Longer Hot</title>
	<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/</link>
	<description>A blog on virtual worlds, games, and digital content, from Matt Mihaly</description>
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		<title>by: csven</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34976</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Now that the report's numbers have been debunked and the whole thing pulled by the Yankee Group, I guess we'll go back to ignoring positive numbers (like those reported by the Guardian) which indicate Second Life isn't necessarily stagnating but is perhaps the stickiest application out there... including Facebook.

Guess the schadenfreude will have to wait, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the report&#8217;s numbers have been debunked and the whole thing pulled by the Yankee Group, I guess we&#8217;ll go back to ignoring positive numbers (like those reported by the Guardian) which indicate Second Life isn&#8217;t necessarily stagnating but is perhaps the stickiest application out there&#8230; including Facebook.</p>
<p>Guess the schadenfreude will have to wait, eh?
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		<title>by: Movies &#187; Comment on Breaking News: Hula Hoops No Longer Hot by Movies &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34230</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Mike Fox wrote an interesting post today onHere&amp;#8217;s a quick excerptMelissa Hernandez wrote an interesting post today onHere’sa quick excerptIt’s news when there’sa major franchise release, or a small studio pushes boundaries, or genres wax and wane — whether we’re talking about TV, movies, or games. &amp;#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Mike Fox wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptMelissa Hernandez wrote an interesting post today onHere’sa quick excerptIt’s news when there’sa major franchise release, or a small studio pushes boundaries, or genres wax and wane — whether we’re talking about TV, movies, or games. &#8230; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Movies &#187; Comment on Breaking News: Hula Hoops No Longer Hot by These Elves &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34201</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Melissa Hernandez wrote an interesting post today onHere&amp;#8217;s a quick excerptIt’s news when there’sa major franchise release, or a small studio pushes boundaries, or genres wax and wane — whether we’re talking about TV, movies, or games. Journalism fails when it covers games because doesn’t yet have the &amp;#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Melissa Hernandez wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptIt’s news when there’sa major franchise release, or a small studio pushes boundaries, or genres wax and wane — whether we’re talking about TV, movies, or games. Journalism fails when it covers games because doesn’t yet have the &#8230; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Azaroth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Magic 8 Ball Sez: Gay Furry Bondage May Not Be For Some.</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34165</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] &amp;#8220;It’s a niche product and it’s captured about as much of its niche as it looks likely to capture.&amp;#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;It’s a niche product and it’s captured about as much of its niche as it looks likely to capture.&#8221; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: These Elves are People - Push cx</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34164</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34164</guid>
					<description>[...] The one lesson journalism must learn is to start treating gaming like the mainstream medium it has become. It&amp;#8217;s news when there&amp;#8217;s a major franchise release, or a small studio pushes boundaries, or genres wax and wane &amp;#8212; whether we&amp;#8217;re talking about TV, movies, or games. Journalism fails when it covers games because doesn&amp;#8217;t yet have the expertise to tell dead horses from new developments or PR from reality. There are dedicated gaming news outlets, but they&amp;#8217;re nearly all awful because their background is gaming, not journalism; the gaming press hasn&amp;#8217;t been able to build the firewall between news and advertising to do much serious journalism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The one lesson journalism must learn is to start treating gaming like the mainstream medium it has become. It&#8217;s news when there&#8217;s a major franchise release, or a small studio pushes boundaries, or genres wax and wane &#8212; whether we&#8217;re talking about TV, movies, or games. Journalism fails when it covers games because doesn&#8217;t yet have the expertise to tell dead horses from new developments or PR from reality. There are dedicated gaming news outlets, but they&#8217;re nearly all awful because their background is gaming, not journalism; the gaming press hasn&#8217;t been able to build the firewall between news and advertising to do much serious journalism. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Jeff Freeman</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/10/03/breaking-news-hula-hoops-no-longer-hot/#comment-34089</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;em&gt;It’s a niche product and it’s captured about as much of its niche as it looks likely to capture.&lt;/em&gt;

Or even much, much more of its niche.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/09/second-lifes-sl.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SLH noted&lt;/a&gt; an alarming decline in SL's growth relative to WoW, an IM client, and The Sims Online, which apparently is still running.

Theirs was really just an educated guess, though. As they noted:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Game companies are infamous for inflating creatively defining subscriber numbers and use different methods for counting players.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Apparently the Yankee Group confirms their speculation. So much for all the Alexa tracking naysayers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It’s a niche product and it’s captured about as much of its niche as it looks likely to capture.</em></p>
<p>Or even much, much more of its niche.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/09/second-lifes-sl.html" rel="nofollow">SLH noted</a> an alarming decline in SL&#8217;s growth relative to WoW, an IM client, and The Sims Online, which apparently is still running.</p>
<p>Theirs was really just an educated guess, though. As they noted:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Game companies are infamous for inflating creatively defining subscriber numbers and use different methods for counting players.
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<p>Apparently the Yankee Group confirms their speculation. So much for all the Alexa tracking naysayers!
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