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	<title>Comments on: Alternative Purpose Games</title>
	<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/</link>
	<description>A blog on virtual worlds, games, and digital content, from Matt Mihaly</description>
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		<title>by: Matt</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-25733</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No, the games suck. ;)

I run text MUDs - games without any graphics at all - so you're definitely barking up the wrong tree by accusing me of being a graphics whore.

--matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the games suck. <img src='http://forge.ironrealms.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I run text MUDs - games without any graphics at all - so you&#8217;re definitely barking up the wrong tree by accusing me of being a graphics whore.</p>
<p>&#8211;matt
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		<title>by: CaRteR</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-25705</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-25705</guid>
					<description>I think this post says more about the writer than about games. (Translation: Maybe it isn't the games that are boring - maybe it's YOU that is boring.) There are some games from the old 8-bit days that still play extremely well. For example, MULE. I think you guys won't touch your cereal unless its slathered in sugar (read: lots of &quot;kewl grafiks&quot; with explosions and junk).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this post says more about the writer than about games. (Translation: Maybe it isn&#8217;t the games that are boring - maybe it&#8217;s YOU that is boring.) There are some games from the old 8-bit days that still play extremely well. For example, MULE. I think you guys won&#8217;t touch your cereal unless its slathered in sugar (read: lots of &#8220;kewl grafiks&#8221; with explosions and junk).
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		<title>by: AC</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20693</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20693</guid>
					<description>http://seriousgames.ning.com
http://seriousgamesblog.blogspot.com/</description>
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<a href='http://seriousgamesblog.blogspot.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://seriousgamesblog.blogspot.com/</a>
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		<title>by: Steven "PlayNoEvil" Davis</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20625</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20625</guid>
					<description>Matt  -

I half agree with you. Games are a core form of entertainment / interaction - like literature, theater, film... and we have a multitude of potential genres within games. 

&quot;Serious&quot; games seem to sit in a couple of categories:

Non-fiction games, Educational games, Propaganda games, and Documenta-games?

In some sense, we are selling ourselves short as defining games so narrowly - no one does that with writing, film, or theater?</description>
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<p>I half agree with you. Games are a core form of entertainment / interaction - like literature, theater, film&#8230; and we have a multitude of potential genres within games. </p>
<p>&#8220;Serious&#8221; games seem to sit in a couple of categories:</p>
<p>Non-fiction games, Educational games, Propaganda games, and Documenta-games?</p>
<p>In some sense, we are selling ourselves short as defining games so narrowly - no one does that with writing, film, or theater?
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		<title>by: Matt</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20325</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20325</guid>
					<description>APG, sorry Galleus!

--matt</description>
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<p>&#8211;matt
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20302</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20302</guid>
					<description>&quot;Many ARPs suffer from a major problem: They’re just not very good games&quot;

Reminds of Food Force, which was made by the United Nations World Food Program to teach kids about helping feed developing nations. Sure, it's a great concept, and the media started going on about how more games should be like it, but no one seemed to mention that it looks and plays like a shareware game from the mid 90's. The kind you'd buy on a floppy for 5 bucks from Radioshack.

I just hate when parents and media always assume that if a game is blatantly educational, it's obviously so much more important than an &quot;entertainment&quot; video game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many ARPs suffer from a major problem: They’re just not very good games&#8221;</p>
<p>Reminds of Food Force, which was made by the United Nations World Food Program to teach kids about helping feed developing nations. Sure, it&#8217;s a great concept, and the media started going on about how more games should be like it, but no one seemed to mention that it looks and plays like a shareware game from the mid 90&#8217;s. The kind you&#8217;d buy on a floppy for 5 bucks from Radioshack.</p>
<p>I just hate when parents and media always assume that if a game is blatantly educational, it&#8217;s obviously so much more important than an &#8220;entertainment&#8221; video game.
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		<title>by: Galleus</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20295</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20295</guid>
					<description>So...

ARP or APG? You used ARP in the post and APG in the comment.

Either that or I'm completely lost.</description>
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<p>ARP or APG? You used ARP in the post and APG in the comment.</p>
<p>Either that or I&#8217;m completely lost.
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		<title>by: Matt</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20236</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20236</guid>
					<description>ARG-H!

Just kidding. The great thing about APG and ARG is that you only have to remember 4 letters but you get 2 three letter acronyms out of them! Efficiency.

--matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARG-H!</p>
<p>Just kidding. The great thing about APG and ARG is that you only have to remember 4 letters but you get 2 three letter acronyms out of them! Efficiency.</p>
<p>&#8211;matt
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		<title>by: Andrew Crystall</title>
		<link>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20231</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/06/27/alternative-purpose-games/#comment-20231</guid>
					<description>My only problem with the term is it's quite close to ARG (Alternate Reality Game), a moderately established term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only problem with the term is it&#8217;s quite close to ARG (Alternate Reality Game), a moderately established term.
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